Suggestions, Comments & Problems: Crew Rules

ya delete X-fade/The Asylum from L.A.. might help a bit.. that crew is so dead,,, don't even know its a crew that exist.. sorry.. haha

Ya the ADMIN OR MOD.. should delete all the inactive crews.. that may keep things runnin smooth.. 

There's 3 crew running the LA.. The YOSHI crew (dynasty) The New fags Era , and Lyricist Inc (decent 1)...



Edited by Rameez - 10 December 2009 at 8:46pm

can't deny the truth.. 

funny how u support this topic.. Your crew was dead since you joined..

Competition is brewing already!

I dont know I'd say 3 months of inactivity is WAY too long.. Even Jehu comes on atleast once a month, but he doesnt battle..

Stalin wrote: I dont know I'd say 3 months of inactivity is WAY too long.. Even Jehu comes on atleast once a month, but he doesnt battle..   If u do every 3 months, u could have a crew wit hOrion, Jehu, BSD, and 20thetruth.  They sign on atleast every 3 months right?? but they wouldnt contribute to the site as far as battles and open mics.  Honestly, if people are gonna be active, they'll log on atleast once a week, if not, they're not really active are they?

Agreed, but the time would have to be a min of 3 weeks imo cause it'd be annoying going on hjoliday for 2 weeks coming back and uv been kicked lol But i do see your point and as much as my example may not be an often occurance it may happen and alotta people here will find it to moan about

I miss being in a crew, R.I.P Asylum

Stalin..thats a good idea.

LI has been tryin' to do as much as possible with tha help of newbs, figurin' that if there part of a crew than they would stay..worked sometimes..didn't for others.  Also about tha talent bein' on just one crew....well it is what it is.  Personally it I don't think that its a big deal.  Its not always about tha bein' tha best.

 

Sure in crew battles, a couple might be stronger...but how can you spread it out.  I've ask some of tha vets to join my crew..looks at Stalin...but they just turned me down.  But what if New Era asks some of tha vets..would they have said no, or would they have jumped on tha bandwagon.

 

I personally like tha crew we got....if some of them mothafuckaz would be here more often.

 

just my 2 cents

To be honest, Renegades never had a monopoly.
In my view, they we're selective, what I would call an "exclusive club", in away it helped people elevate, strive to be accepted.

Dynasty are "monopolistic" since they just "stock pile talent", theres no real selection process, so all the talent goes there. this creates an enviroment of no competition.

When Renegades was on top, they was selective, so people in dynasty felt they had to prove they was as good if not better than renegades. IE competition.


I wouldnt put New Era in the "monopoly" group either, as they appear to be "selective" too, well at least their not runnin round snappin up the talent (havent most, if not all, the members been in there from the start?)


The idea of restricting the number of members in a crew, in theory would force say, dynasty to release some of there members who would either flow to other crews, or just be the "dead weight" which just makes them look impressive.


similarly with auto-kicking inactive members, a crew cannot rely on old names to survive and at least would encourge activity.


The arguement of them just looking in every now and then is also true for the Rankings list, When was the last time Orion posted? yet hes still at the top.

And if members are auto-kicked from crews, their free to rejoin, but would also encourage crew leaders to be more selective when accepting new members.


And finally, Lucky Ds argument of "so what if all the talents in one place?", is historically wrong. Maybe hes just not been here long enough to see two top crews fightin it out to prove who is THE top crew? (which boosts activity, which is what these ideas are designed to do)

Though, I personally beleive there needs to be different levels, at least two top crews, and one or two "n00b" crews (no offence Lucky).

The reason for two top crews is above, and the reason for the "n00b" crews is, as Lucky said, to encourage new members to stay.

Which is a completely seperate issue, with new members, comes new challenges. One of the reasons the "old guys" dont battle much is because they've battled everyone, theres no one new to challenge them.

But some of the top members who them selfs we're n00bs in the old days, seem to forget where they came from, what their skill level was when they came (or they dont want to remember?).
And so they bash n00bs for no reason whats so ever, which obviously scares them off, activity dies as theres no "fresh blood",  and the same people moan that the sites inactive.


There are many problems with LA, and each needs tackling in a different way.
its just finding the right way to tackle them.

I don't, however, think the Rankings should be changed. Orion won all those battles fair and square, he deserves to be there whether he's posting or not.

Well, there wont be a change to the rankings system, since (as was brought up a while back) the system auto hides people who have been inactive for X amount of time.

X is different for different members, well in terms of battles. a member who joined, lost their first battle will be taken off the rankings quicker than someone like orion who has been on along time and has a lot of battles. This is all based on the "last login date".

Everyone will disappear from the rankings one day. And there are ALOT of big names I remember who are not on the rankings, but I doubt most people today would know who they were.

Theres no point in having an all time Top 10 if its based on activity.

Its not an "all time" top 10, the Top 10 on the home page is based on the Rankings page. Which would be fucking huge if i had "everyone" who ever battled on LA.

Alternitavley you could have a "Top Battlers For This Month" thing where it only records W's, L's and N's from that month to create a more relevant Top 10. This would also encourage more battles as people would want to be top.

It would be impossible to do a "this months top battlers" since the system only has a count, an overall count. eg the system only knows you won 12 battles (at time of writing) it doesnt know WHEN you won them.

Though I have been planning an upgrade to the (backend) battling system, which would allow for it to know when battles we're won and lost etc. adding countless other benefits to the site as well (some may not directly affect the members how ever)


To be honest, I disagree with the statement of "run a tourny, it'll boost activity", I've been running LA for 6 years (depending how you count it), I know what does and doesnt work.

A tourny will be great in the initiate state, but will slowly die the closer it gets to the end, with the inevitable no-shows (from the so-called regulars, ironically, just look at the League). So I think we should look elsewhere than just "run a tourny" (though im sure thats not wot you ment)

As I said, theres alot of problems with LA which need tackling individually. Stalins and yours (calibra) are both separate suggestions for separate issues.