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Cain vs Packed

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Topic: Cain vs Packed
Posted By: Cain
Subject: Cain vs Packed
Date Posted: 09 June 2014 at 1:10am
5 bars
due in 48 hours
no flips
 
 



Replies:
Posted By: Cain
Date Posted: 10 June 2014 at 11:19pm
 

Explanations

 Pack in a casket(packing a casket)
Jason vorhees used a machete, Eddie lacy is the running back for the packers
pack a fag(pack of fags) english term for ciggarettes
Sean waltman was a wrestler called x-Pac and before that the 123 kid, He was a part of a group of friends called the clique and eventually joined the new world order with the outsiders and Hollywood hogan
 
 
 

He straight ass talking, nothing but lies in ya verse.  So lets ensure you die in the first.
My heater known to fry when it bursts,  to get "pack in a casket" like I was driving a hearse

Ya faction scarred so don't go "acting hard," i know ya missing the protection.
I fire slugs n more so if it's blood n gore? I'll leave "P on the wall" like pissing wit erections

I'm like Jason Voorhees when I use a blade to floor G, I'm machete crazy
So if this kid boast that this shits close, you'll see "the pack on the run" like Eddie Lacy!

Clown, I pop shots at this kitten, beat me? Ocks gotta be kidding. So like batman, I finish jokers.
Get unruly & push me? Na, you truly a pussy. Cain share that "pack a fag" like British smokers.

This "outsider going Hollywood," but this a "new world order" & I've gone n chalked him.
So if that doesn't "click?" Then you'll be down for the "1 2 3 kid when I x-Pac" like Sean waltman!

 
 
 
 
You just lost a battle...


Posted By: Packed
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 3:53pm
*opens casket*
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your bars don't storm shit, their boring son
any girl that wants to get hurricane, would rather stand outside during one
I cause internal pain, one hit making it bleed
punches will attack Cane Corso bad, I should be jailed for hating the breed
let me show you what I mean & how I'm feeling
cuz the way you look up to INK I thought there was graffiti on the ceiling 
your mothers an ugly bitch I can't fuck if I'm sober
since the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, its obvious you got hit with a lawnmower
you dont get pussy or laid jerk, i dig up great dirt
Canes are known for supporting elderly, no wonder you still post played work
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*closed casket*


Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 13 June 2014 at 1:02am
Cain - Firstly, your flow's decent  and rhyme schemes are tight throughout , good job. OK now I'll go punch by punch. Punch 1, the wordplay's ok but your set-up is filler, the "fry when it burst" is bringing nothing to the table but rhymes. Try and work on linking your set-ups to your punchlines in theme as it'll increase the overall delivery of the punchline. This lands, but it's a glancing blow. Punch 2, again whilst your rhyming skills are nice, your set-up is irrelevant to the theme of your punch, the "slugs n more, blood n gore" is a lovely internal multie, but it takes away from the direction of your punch, this  barely lands though and is little weird with "Pissing wit erections" why would you need an erection to piss up a wall? It's an ok idea, but because you were intent on using erection as your rhyme it lost direction. Punch 3  There's a common theme here, and you need to realise it. Again your set-up is irrelevant to your punch, your punch is good, but the "kid boast that this shits close" is there for the rhymes, it doesn't relate to him being on the run, why would you be on the run if you made a boast about how close it is? Punch 4 This one doesn't land, how is "sharing" him an insult? Wordplay alone does not  a punch make, this is a good example of that. Try and use the wordplay in a way that you're actually dissing him.  Punch 5 This was your best punch, set-up and punch link together, decent concept worded well, good rhymes. If the rest of your verse was like this punch couplet you'd've had a very good verse.

Packed - Flow's on but is boring as all shit, and there's very little rhyming ability on display. I know this is the style used on "text battle" forums, but on LA we have a history in the hiphop community, and most of our members have come from that background, we like flow, we like rhymes. As much as this style is great for punches, it gets little respect from the hiphop culture for it's lack of rap technique. I'm not hatin here btw, I'm just letting you know that a lot of people will mark you down for that if you come across someone with comparable punches - something to think about. Punch 1 This is ok, it lands. Not massively feeling the hurrican play tbh, I think you've got better in you, but it lands. Punch 2 This I like, direct, well worded (for the punch, not for rap) hits correct. Punch 3 This was weaker for one reason tbh, as a graffitti artist of over 16 years experience, most of us use "paint" rather than Ink. It still lands, but when I hear "Ink" in terms of art I think tattoo, not graffitti. Punch 4 This was your weakest one for me, the connection between the apple/tree and lawnmower is forced at best, and "obvious you got hit with the lawnmower" doesn't work to me,you're way better than this and you know it lol. Punch 5 Solid, great nameflip, lands correct.

 OK, if this was about rap ability Packed would've had his ass handed to him, but punches always take precedence in a straight up battle. If Cain's set-ups were better and he'd flipped his concepts more effectively he woulda taken this, as it stands Packed had a far more consistent verse in terms of raw punchlines.  I do have to say though Packed, as great as your punches are, I'm voting on a "rap battle" not a comedy roast, you might not like it but this is a hiphop site so you'll have to live with it, if you came across someone with punches as direct you would've had zero chance, as your actual rap technique is rudimentary at best, boring flow, basic rhymes, just be aware that this is a hiphop/rap forum, not a pure text battle site, and people will come at it from that angle. No hate intended, it's just obvious that you're from the text scene and not the rap scene, most of us here are the opposite, "know your audience" is always a good point to be made in a battle. Your punch technique is great.

My vote = Packed


Posted By: Trizzy Tre
Date Posted: 13 June 2014 at 3:10pm
Cain -
 

He straight ass talking, nothing but lies in ya verse.  So lets ensure you die in the first.
My heater known to fry when it bursts,  to get "pack in a casket" like I was driving a hearse

The flow was nice, but didnt really connect to the punch which also lacked power. 2/5
 
Ya faction scarred so don't go "acting hard," i know ya missing the protection.
I fire slugs n more so if it's blood n gore? I'll leave "P on the wall" like pissing wit erections
 
Kinda confused with the punchline here and what your concept was, the flow was nice and helped with the feel of the bar, but this is a miss - 1.5/5

I'm like Jason Voorhees when I use a blade to floor G, I'm machete crazy
So if this kid boast that this shits close, you'll see "the pack on the run" like Eddie Lacy!

I liked this one, the first line was kinda off odd but the flow was nice and punch connected - 3/5
 
Clown, I pop shots at this kitten, beat me? Ocks gotta be kidding. So like batman, I finish jokers.
Get unruly & push me? Na, you truly a pussy. Cain share that "pack a fag" like British smokers.
 
This was ok, but not sure on the angle of this puncline- 2/5

This "outsider going Hollywood," but this a "new world order" & I've gone n chalked him.
So if that doesn't "click?" Then you'll be down for the "1 2 3 kid when I x-Pac" like Sean waltman!

Nice ending, thought this was your best punch - 3.5/5
 
Overall - 12
 
 
 
 
Packed:
 
your bars don't storm shit, their boring son
any girl that wants to get hurricane, would rather stand outside during one
This was a nice opened, good shot here and cool angle - 3/5
 
I cause internal pain, one hit making it bleed
punches will attack Cane Corso bad, I should be jailed for hating the breed
Cane Corse was a nice play man, good shit 3.5/5
 
let me show you what I mean & how I'm feeling
cuz the way you look up to INK I thought there was graffiti on the ceiling 
LOL, this was a dope play and concept, hard hit - 4/5
 
your mothers an ugly bitch I can't fuck if I'm sober
since the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, its obvious you got hit with a lawnmower
This was ok, I can see where you were going with this but ok 2.5/5
 
you dont get pussy or laid jerk, i dig up great dirt
Canes are known for supporting elderly, no wonder you still post played work
Solid hit. Nice name flip and hard hitting closer 4/5
 
Overall - 17
 
 
 
This was one sided.
Cane you def have skills when it comes to flow and rhyme schemes its just putting it together with a solid punch attacking who you are battling. I can tell you have the ability but just didnt put it together. Keep at it man. Packed, you were pretty consistant throughout the verse and I enjoyed that Ink play. Nice verse.
 
 
MVGT - Packed
 
 
 


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Posted By: Packed
Date Posted: 17 June 2014 at 2:16pm
2-zip


Posted By: Smoothtung
Date Posted: 17 June 2014 at 2:29pm
it's all preferred battle style when it comes to voting.. I think Cain won. I liked his word play, alot of name flips but he kept them fresh with humor and great references. If this were a live one on one battle Cain would have had the crowd going for sure. 

Packed's verse had some decent punches but it doesnt matter to me if you are more direct with the insults, you need to make me go "oh shit!" and besides the 'ink/graffiti on the ceiling' line he didnt.. 

My vote has to go to Cain. Like i said, he brought charisma, humor and intelligence where as Packed just went for the insults. 


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Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 17 June 2014 at 11:10pm
meh, i honestly thought this was one sided. Can brought some funny material but most of it was filler tbh. packs punches were way harder. his name flips were dope. cain i did like the pack on a run punch and the sean waltmen but your set ups need work to back up your punch.

Vote Packed for better punches, flips, better  battle verse all around


3-1 p upp


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Posted By: The Law
Date Posted: 29 June 2014 at 3:05am
Cain - Had a verse full of name flips. Flow was alright, I thought there were some filler parts, and a couple of bars where the wording didn't do you justice, try to make everything in your verse relevant to the bar they are in. Thought your third and closing bar were your best ones but again it was a verse full of name plays which sometimes limits as to how far you can go with the punches. Try to see if you can get some personals on him, even if he's newer, I'm sure you can find a few. 

Packed - Opener had a cool idea, but I thought the wording was missing something. 2nd, 3rd, and closing bars were nice. I though the lawnmower line was too irrelevant and indirect to consistute as a dope punch. The INK personal was a good punch thought and something that Cain should pick up on for future battles ( to try and thow some personals in there). Flow and everything else was on point, your verse came over smoothly. I would just like to see you be a bit more consistent in your verse and aggressive. 

MGVT: Packed - it wasn't a bad battle. I just felt that packed had more bars in his verse that worked out for him. 


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Posted By: Sensei Shun
Date Posted: 29 June 2014 at 4:28am
Leets goo!

Cain

Bar 1» Set up lune was filler. The nameflip wasnt bad. On the simple side, but executed effectively. 5/10
Bar 2» Again, I'll point out the squandered set up. Not a big fan of single letter flips, they've always struck me as uncreative. But we all use them from time to time. And this was decent. 4.5/10
Bar 3» Set up was mild, but I enjoyed the Eddie Lacy flip. Twas slick. 6.5/10
Bar 4» Better set up. Leading with a jab. Which helped because the punch was just decent. 5.5/10
Bar 5» Ugh! This was a very well worded, complex flip. Great job setting it up and driving it home. 7/10



Pack

Bar 1» Filler set up. Punch concept was dope.. That wordplay could have been dope. But the wording of "that wants to get hurricane" feels extremely awkward. 4.5/10
Bar 2» Set up squandered. Punch was actually dope though. Very solid. 7/10
Bar 3» Not sure how relevant the personal is, but the wording was solid. I might be scoring this higher if I had some knowledge of their relationship. 5/10
Bar 4» I usually hit fast forward when I see "your mom" but this was funny. Digging the humorous approach. 6/10
Bar 5» Filler set up. Closer had maad potential, but like in the opener...The wording is very sloppy...4.5/19

Cane » 28.5
Pack » 27

Close battle. Both had some dope lines. I think both of you need to work on using your set up lines better. Both had some creative shit..but Pack stumbled on two of his better concepts. Couple that with the fact that Cane had the better flow, and I have to edge this to......

Vote » Cane


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Posted By: Jay
Date Posted: 29 June 2014 at 7:19am
He straight ass talking, nothing but lies in ya verse.  So lets ensure you die in the first.

My heater known to fry when it bursts,  to get "pack in a casket" like I was driving a hearse

plain punch here. didnt flip it creatively

Ya faction scarred so don't go "acting hard," i know ya missing the protection.
I fire slugs n more so if it's blood n gore? I'll leave "P on the wall" like pissing wit erections

lmao good hit right. i just finished peein on the wall myself hahaha

I'm like Jason Voorhees when I use a blade to floor G, I'm machete crazy
So if this kid boast that this shits close, you'll see "the pack on the run" like Eddie Lacy!

not bad. coulda been a strong stinger but still not bad.

Clown, I pop shots at this kitten, beat me? Ocks gotta be kidding. So like batman, I finish jokers.
Get unruly & push me? Na, you truly a pussy. Cain share that "pack a fag" like British smokers.

saw where u were going but delivery and set up were weak.

This "outsider going Hollywood," but this a "new world order" & I've gone n chalked him.
So if that doesn't "click?" Then you'll be down for the "1 2 3 kid when I x-Pac" like Sean waltman!

ehhh too much of a stretch in the punchline. didnt land too well to me.

 



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your bars don't storm shit, their boring son
any girl that wants to get hurricane, would rather stand outside during one
forced wp here. got it but too much of a stretch.
I cause internal pain, one hit making it bleed
punches will attack Cane Corso bad, I should be jailed for hating the breed
solid punch. 
let me show you what I mean & how I'm feeling
cuz the way you look up to INK I thought there was graffiti on the ceiling 
coo punch. not a haymaker but still landed.
your mothers an ugly bitch I can't fuck if I'm sober
since the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, its obvious you got hit with a lawnmower
lmao dope punch
you dont get pussy or laid jerk, i dig up great dirt
Canes are known for supporting elderly, no wonder you still post played work
didnt feel the closer. punch was lacking the hit. 





overall felt pack had harder hits and executed his punches better here. Cain had the P on the Wall joint that was sick but Packs lawnmower and corso punches were stingers. close one but i think its clear who won.


v. packed graves (yeah, i know who u are ;))
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Posted By: Packed
Date Posted: 07 July 2014 at 2:17pm
7-2 when does this close?



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