Tourney Rules
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Topic: Tourney Rules
Posted By: SwordedStylez
Subject: Tourney Rules
Date Posted: 29 May 2015 at 1:25am
Another announcement, this time of our new Standardized Tourney Rules. All of our tourneys going forward will follow these rules and this format so familiarise yourself with the style. Most of the rules are fairly standardized across the board, this is so we can get consistency and will allow us to create promotional materials from the battles.
Standard Rules
No holds barred - off-site personals allowed. - Again this is non-negotiable. Part of our problem on LA is that we're very "boxed in" and that makes it hard to attract new members. We as a site are going to be more active on social media, and (more information to come in the sign up threads) and we're going to encourage that the members do the same in order to create a "scene" around the new tourney circuit.
Flipping is ON - flipping is a legitimate skill in emceeing, it isn't biting. Flipping isn't using the same punch, it's re-using the concept in a way that TURNS IT BACK ON AN OPPONENT, and is only effective if it was BETTER than the original. Don't fear a flip, just be better than the other guy.
Standard no recycling/biting
*for battlefield battles with "Tourney Rules" the person who made the callout goes FIRST by default. That is the "LA way."
Text: 16 line verses (if it's 2 rounds, that's 2 16's) No explanations or links at all - we want this stuff to read well at face value tbh, we aren't going to be packaging wikipedia printouts with the final battle "products" No editing of text-style is allowed this is about your words not your presentation, leave that to us.
Audio: 16 bar (lines) verses Both emcees spit consecutively on the same beat separated by the "hook section" All vocals must be provided "raw" by the deadline. I will be doing all the mixing/fx/production myself to ensure consistency in sound. Any breaking of this rule will be an instant disqualification. Only 1 live vocal is allowed, no doubles, no adlibs. We want this to feel like a live battle, not a track, any doubles will not be accepted and if you hard-wire it into the main vocal track you'll either have to re-record or miss your deadline.
All verses will adhere to this standard in tourneys from now on.
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Posted By: Mission
Date Posted: 29 May 2015 at 5:52am
Love this, can't wait for the next tournament
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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 4:45pm
Sounds good, are hyperlinks allowed? Or quotes?
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 5:51pm
nothing but your verse. Hyperlinks are pointless when we're planning to distrubute the "collection" of the battles in a way that you can't click a hyperlink.
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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 6:00pm
Cheers for clearing that up.
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 6:08pm
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My best "advice" would be to think of it in terms of "audience" rather than "internet users". Generally personals translate if they're direct enough (never a problem dropping personals in a live battle with a crowd who don't know the people "personally") and be creative with the way you USE your concepts, obscurity is not synonymous with complexity.
Watch this space though, there are thing in the works to try and help our "dead battle scene" improve quality wise ;)
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Posted By: dalinquent
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 6:44pm
I hope the judges are well versed in these rules as well
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 6:55pm
They will be bro, voting is easy and just requires filling out a quick form to "show working." There's a thread about it already.
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Posted By: AxyRocker
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 12:25pm
Flipping is ON that means underdogs will get a chance to flip? while favorites would post the verse first ! Is it something like this?
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 12:29pm
No, a coin will be flipped in each battle with the low-seed calling it. If you win the coin toss you pick the order. Why would we give assistance to the low-seed by default?
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Posted By: AxyRocker
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 12:35pm
coin toss...??? You never stop to amaze me SS ... Dope stuff !
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 1:07pm
Seriously dude, have you never watched or played sports? A coin toss is a pretty standard "fair way" of doing it. If people want I'll even video the bloody tosses.
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Posted By: Shankley
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 7:23pm
^^^ I vote that... To keep things above board dope shit here Stylez you done some good things since you've been back bro.
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 7:29pm
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Serves me right for suggesting it I guess. I might just do it in tc one day, then people can come in and call it live and others can verify. And thanks for the kudos, as you'll hear from both me and Scoot "there's a lot more to come" in the future. And please don't overlook Scoot, I'm far from planning all of this stuff alone and tbh, no matter what ideas I have, none of them work without 1.Scoot approving them and 2.Scoot seeing my massive blunders in ideas and fixing them :P But yeah, this is a collaborative effort for real. And I aint doing ANYTHING like the sort of hassle it takes for him to do shit like LA radio and profiles etc.
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Posted By: daydizzle89
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 9:54pm
SwordedStylez wrote:
Serves me right for suggesting it I guess. I might just do it in tc one day, then people can come in and call it live and others can verify. And thanks for the kudos, as you'll hear from both me and Scoot "there's a lot more to come" in the future. And please don't overlook Scoot, I'm far from planning all of this stuff alone and tbh, no matter what ideas I have, none of them work without 1.Scoot approving them and 2.Scoot seeing my massive blunders in ideas and fixing them :P But yeah, this is a collaborative effort for real. And I aint doing ANYTHING like the sort of hassle it takes for him to do shit like LA radio and profiles etc.
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This is the type of respect scoot deserves. Hands down , SS you showing some class and it's spreading across LA. I have alot of respect for the actual vets, scoots n yourself. Keep up the great work guys!!!
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Posted By: AxyRocker
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 6:47pm
I got a doubt, with no expos how is a person gonna prove that the off-site personal he used is valid and not something imaginary or something made up by that guy ! There should be some validity if its an off-site personal.
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 6:53pm
Why should he have to prove anything? It's up to you guys to stay up on what's relevant in the scene. If I was you I'd worry less about the rules and more about your opponents. One more stupid question or trying to debate rules that are NOT DEBATABLE and you'll be banned and I'll give your tourney spots to someone who missed out, ok?
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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 6:54pm
^^^ There isn't a way to prove it. You just got to work around that, maybe use that to your advantage.....
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Posted By: AxyRocker
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 7:08pm
Rutter knows best wrote:
^^^ There isn't a way to prove it. You just got to work around that, maybe use that to your advantage..... |
Got the hint, thanks Rut
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Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 8:04pm
What about quotes ss?
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Posted By: Rutter knows best
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 8:05pm
Beans wrote:
What about quotes ss? |
Already asked man, it a nay on the itsmey.
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Posted By: Beans
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 8:17pm
Good looks
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 02 June 2015 at 8:18pm
Just to clarify, any text that goes beyond the 16 bar limit (that's lines) will be deleted before it is sent to judges. It's not a 16 bar plus footnotes limit I'm afraid. Let me put it in really simple terms, live battlers don't get the opportunity after they've spit to recap all of their bars and illustrate why they were so good. We are emulating THAT sort of battle, over-convoluted ideas and "out-there" concepts won't play well. This is a case of "play to the audience/style," simply be direct. Think about it this way, everyone is in the same boat, and we want our battles to be more accessible to outsiders. This whole "old boys club" of LA with laziness and molly-coddling is the main reason we're struggling. We need new blood and we need to be more accessible. I've given you free reign that you don't normally have to get personals, stop trying to over-explain shit wordplay and get fucking personal and maybe people might actually enjoy something one of you has written in a battle for once this year, whaddya think?
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 5:07pm
And I'm forced to double post because this needs saying. The next person who approaches me to try and have me change the NON-NEGOTIABLE rules will lose their tourney spots. This is not a democracy, and we have the rules this way for a reason. This is the last I will say on the matter, this is not up for debate. Thank you.
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Posted By: fuckoff
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 5:37pm
What's the topical rules, with regards to pictures, (personally prefer if they were banned) and line limit etc
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Posted By: SwordedStylez
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 5:41pm
same as the rest of text bro, just 16 lines, no pictures no additional text (so there's no 1-line extras) we're trying to keep the format consistent across the "styles" so that we can display them the same way in some of the promotional materials. Just think of it like writing a verse for a track I guess.
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Posted By: fuckoff
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 8:56pm
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