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mcwoods
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Posted: 18 May 2009 at 12:08am |
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wasn't talkin' about kon...
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Kay B
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Posted: 18 May 2009 at 12:20am |
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Oh, well than i have no idea what verse your on about so that works more in my favor, though i DO hope ur not refering to one against me since they were good...not great
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Cuba
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 2:52pm |
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A mon avis...
I think votes are weak...how someone can describe that battle as a 'landslide' is a joke to me... Calibra's opener is weak? Sparta's was terrible...Era/Ear, that's a garbage wordplay, even if you accept ear/era then the set up is misworded...Van Gogh (That's 'go' not 'goff') didn't cut his ear "short", he cut it off...![]() Sparta's verse is good, he got the tourny personal that I discredited (that's a blatant missed punch people) but biting punch is dope & the personal at my photo is decent, not that I have a particularly 'long' face...but I guess you gotta twist that to make the punch work ...closer is like 'what'...only an average nameflip (Calibra dropped much hotter nameflips against the team)...and the Geordie punch is decent comedy punch (though I'm not a Geordie, so you lose points for inaccuracy)...so overall, its a good verse, but it's not a knock out verse...to me he has two missed punches, three good punches and one punch...fair play to him, best punch of the battle...but not a verse that wins the battle...2 missed punches, 3 good punches, 1 next level punch Point's verse = inconsistant, he has some good punches, some weak ones...Woods came out and said that Calibra has a bad punch coz he reminded people that they were the tag champs, but then didn't say anything about the fact Point reminded everyone I'm holding the other two belts ...Opener is ok, 2nd punch is a bit gay (Cal's sig punch > that)...alliteration is weak punch...Shearer punch is but not great, good punch...kind of demonstrates how stretched Sparta's 'double Geordie' line is...coz otherwise Point wudda said about us both here ...American tourists is weak...CalCuLater I thought was a dope wordplay but the set up was a weak (i.e. hot punch but cudda been next level)...I kind of thought that summirised Point's verse...like he had some good ideas but didn't have the set-ups to a standard that landed punches consistently enough....2 missed punches, 2 decent punches, 2 good punches, 1 hot punch Calibra's verse...think people are going a bit overboard criticising it...granted, he had two Sparta orientated punches, but they not played...first one is actually pretty hot, good diss & had the dropping Points punch as a filler, that's a solid punch...opener is ok, accept that its not a great punch, its a decent line...his next three punches against Point are good, PS2 line is very good punch...closer is sickness, dope wordplay, intricately worded across the two lines with a nice intermediary diss ("fuck being B.F's forever") and then a dope punch...letter's with P.S.....P.S. with letter's, its not even hard to get...it's a brilliant two liner, that was only just behind Sparta's biter line as best punch of the battle...to be honest, in terms of wordplay & wording that was probably the best...the biter line is only better coz of the research/credibility/shock factor...in terms of wordplay, wording, execution...P.S. with letters is a much better punch..... To my eyes, Calibra's verse has 1 miss (opener), 3 decent punches, 2 good punches, 1 hot punch (PS2), 1 next level punch (closer) Not gonna go through mine...but by my estimations: Sparta & Point: Missed = 4 Decent = 2 Good = 5 Hot = 1 Next Level = 1+ (Because Sparta's NL punch slightly better than Cal's) Calibra: Missed = 1 Decent = 3 Good = 2 Hot = 1 Next Level = 1 If we assume I've overestimated Cal coz he's on my team, then we can knock a punch down each level (excluding NL)...so that's like 2 missed, 3 decent, 2 good, 1 NL... If you look @ my verse based on that I think we have enough as a team to justify the W...I think it was a good battle, a close battle...but whatever, that's my 'bitching and bullshit' slot done... @ Sparta...a mon avis, you shouldn't be dropping personal punches at people (i.e. the photo line) when you haven't posted the photo yourself...obviously it's fair game to punch at that but it's like people dissing my audio when they haven't done an audio themselves...people should put up or shut up
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Bolo
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 3:17pm |
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All good points Cuba, but the fact remains that you're not the defending champs. Therefore, it would be unbelievably out of character for you, the challenger, to win in a close battle. Unless, of course, the voters were drinking serious amounts of haterade - but we don't do that around these parts, so there's not a very strong likelihood.
I haven't read any part of your breakdown btw, I'm just speaking in general terms (incase you for any reason thought this was a genuine analysis of the situation). |
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Cuba
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 3:33pm |
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I'm naive enough to think that whoever wins the battle should get the vote, even if it's close
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sparta
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 3:51pm |
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My god...you moaned when I beat you last time, you're moaning now I've beaten you again, if you can't put up with being beaten why are you here? Everyone gets votes they don't like, loses battles they thought they should have won, and wins battles they think they should lose, you have to accept that this sort of thing is totally subjective as it's judged by VOTING...nothing gives you the right to say what's a good punch and what isn't, what works and what doesn't...taking apart my opener ffs, the implication is clear, how do you know exactly how much ear was remaning on the side of his goddamn Dutch head? Have you measured it? No! Granted it's not the most complex of lines but it got a good enough reaction and that's perfectly fine by me. FWIW I thought both your verses were good and that Calibra's was getting a bit of undue criticism, but not having a metronomic flow doesn't automatically mean a verse is shit. And about your picture, I will say whatever I like about it, if you put it up here you should expect to be punched about it. You're the one that chose to show yourself to your e-buddies on here, I personally prefer to keep this text battling bullshit firmly as a side-hobby. If you want to get that involved in it it's entirely your problem.
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mcwoods
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 5:45pm |
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i can take a few points from cuba, like bolo said theres definately some sense in the argument..
i would say tho.. in regards to the titles comment, calibra put the fact they where champions in their opener, which was a pretty tame play.. which pretty much is just saying they are the champs, whereas point's was at the end of his verse, and he said cuba 'couldnt hold all the titles' etc.. which is an okay play, and if someone didnt know you held two titles, they would just see this as a regular diss. also, cali's verse, there was nothing wrong with it, but there was a little right. i even commented to sparta about his closer which i wasnt a fan of, EVEN thought its a clever play, calibra had decent plays, but they'd all been done before... aka sparta/ mythology... it just isnt going to hit.. its kinda like a kon/prison play.. i remixed it different, but people still said its the same, which is kinda true.. he had two of these, back to back which lessens the blows even more, he had a play about removing something from a persons sig, thats also been done to death, also a punch about one opponent carrying the other, done before too.. and calis best punch, the PS line, i used against them before... so that took away from it. theres nothing WRONG with doing the same plays, but they are always going to be lacking. there was orginality from the other 3 verses which is what won the day.
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 5:47pm |
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Wowzer..Cuba, what were u thinking writing that post? Seems kinda ridiculous to me that you need to try and belittle our verses. At the end of the day, you lost. Simple enough. Not sure what you were trying to achieve by making such an uncharacteristic faggoty post, but you made yourself look dumb. Love the way you bigged up Calibras bars while criticising mine and spartas, patronising him in the process. Why dont you just pat him on the back and tell him your proud of him? And I don't know how you can criticise anyone as your verse hardly blew me away...I'd try and break it down but I don't know what distinguishes 'good' punches from 'decent' punches, or 'hot' punches from 'next level' punches... GTFOH |
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Cuba
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 7:25pm |
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Ok...
First thing first...I accept we lost, did anybody see me saying "these votes should be thrown, it's a travesty"? I disagree with some of the things said, I put down my view on the matter...c'est la vie, I'm of the view that you should speak on things in full view, rather than going and moaning about it on MSN...if anyone can say I've been moaning behind someone's back then they can step up, coz I don't do it...anyone that speaks to me on MSN knows I don't really talk about battling shit @ Point...I wasn't tryin belittle the verses, I was breaking down how I saw it vs. what the voters were saying, coz I took exception to this 'landslide' comment that Kay vaguely agreed with...no verse is gonna be perfect in terms of amazing one liners, so if you feel like I'm demeaning you then you should probably take off the rose-tinted spectacles...and if you don't know what distinguishes a good punch from a bad punch then I not surprised I never see you voting battles ![]() I was mainly addressin the voters, rather than you two...I even said right at the start, Sparta's verse was good...wow I am so belittling!! Said it was close...wow, I am amazed that I could be so patronising!! ![]() @ Woody...I didn't have too much of a problem with what you said, I sent you that PM about one punch to explain it & I thought some of the things you said were a bit off...but that's personal opinion, I saw you say things that I didn't agree with about the other verses as well...you gave it to Sparta & PB with a fair assessment...not much else I can say @ Sparta...fair play, everone has a view on a battle...everyone sees it differently, when I see something I think is bullshit I say so...not really about moaning, I do that whenever I see it (online/offline)...like I said, I was stating my opinion after the battle was done, by no means gospel...I didn't even say your verse was shit dude, I said it was good...my bad for saying it after the initial comment about the opener, but that was more @ the voter, I didn't like that concept, that's minor...the wording is even more minor, that's just like the added extra's...my bad if it came across like I was trashing the verse because I thought it was pretty good... @ the photo comment, I conceded that if I post it then it's fair game to get punched on...that wasn't really my complaint, was saying more that I think its funny how people will think about personals in the way they behave, like I know that when I make this post I'm gonna get dissed for it in later battles...I know when my photo goes up I gonna get clowned, fair play...but if you want to play that game you should participate in it yourself fully...that's what I think, like Woody ripped my photo in the last battle for the title...but at least he has his photo's up as well...you probably aren't interested but my point is that I think you a good battler but you don't neccesarily earn people's respect like that *shrugs* [/Orion impersonation]
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Cuba
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Posted: 25 May 2009 at 7:26pm |
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Oh snaps...and good luck in the final
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Posted: 26 May 2009 at 3:23pm |
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Don't think there's much more to be said really....
Props to Point & sparta, but I thought my verse was fairly misjudged but I won't get into it, it's over!
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Posted: 09 June 2009 at 7:51pm |
"chain from holland was lame and useless to say" - Erm, why? You obviouly didn't get the double DUTCH part, you fucking idiot. "susan were lame" - Excuse me? That was probably the sickest punch in the verse, maybe even the battle. Again, its clearly something that went over your head. "don't finish ur 10 bars with half bullshit.. thanks" Seriously, Shut the fuck up. You clearly have no idea how this shit works, despite being here for years. You're a fucking retard. Learn to vote, you dick. |
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