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Topic: American GodsPosted: 14 May 2017 at 1:45am |
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Has anyone else been watching this show? |
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 2:06am |
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no but your co-sign is of great repute. ill give a gander.
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 2:19am |
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I'm actually only halfway thru the first episode. It's pretty dope so far.
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 3:23am |
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Beast of a show. Second episode not as good as the first though. But I'm excited to see where the season takes it.
Alot of easter eggs if you know the gods.
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 3:37am |
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Just started episode two.
Wednesday is pretty obvious. The tech god I'm not too sure about just yet. But I understand the premise of the story is that the gods are reliant upon humanities faith in them. Hence is why the old gods are relegated to mythology and the new gods are comprised of the things we put the most faith/attention to currently, like technology. I also noticed Yggdrasil in the intro and at the end of the first episode, which I assume serves as some sort of gateway/portal for various mythological beings and entities to pass thru and enter the Earth Realm. As for the black goddess/succumbs I'm not sure about either. But, I'm about to press play on E2. So maybe it'll bring some clarity. |
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 3:47am |
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Actually, I have a good idea who she is. Though I wonder how many various personifications from different cultures the infused into her character.
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 4:00am |
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You'll know who the black goddess this episode. They make it obvious in one of the scenes.
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First of all OMG I couldn't wait for this show to start. Currently I am in the process of finishing my last few weeks at my current job and a possible move so I haven't had time to watch yet, but I read the book about 2 years ago and I have been looking foward to this since I first heard it was going to be a series. I suspect there will be 10x more Gods in the show than in the books simply because the book is 1 novel vs I think they planned 8 seasons.
you're probably spot on about him I guessed him right away myself in the books. (also another person I guessed right away but I'm not sure if he got introduced in the show yet so I wont say)
Spot on right there. The "New Gods" are exactly what we put faith in .. Wealth, Technology, Media etc. and most of the Old Gods are becoming more powerless because they have nothing to feed off since we as humans today worship material things.
Right On, Yggdrasil plays a very significant role in the outcome of the story overall (well at least the novel not sure if they will go beyond that particular arc or if it will take 8 seasons to get there)
I won't give it away (though the reveal caught me off guard because I was way off when I guessed who she was) I will eliminate a guess though if you're thinking it's Aprodite/Venus, you're 100% wrong.
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 4:17pm |
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Yeah, that was the obvious choice. But I'm pretty familiar with their stories and, other than her being a love goddess nothing else about her is similar to them. Although, on the show they do show an ancient Sumerian like statue that resembles a Venus like figure. However, her name in Jewish and Islamic lore is the equivalent to the Queen of Sheba which I don't get either because I'm also very familiar with her as well. I know the Queen of Sheba in historical context is really just the queen of Ethiopia and or Egypt (most likely Nefertiti), but I never remember her having any evil characteristics. Furthermore, she was never worshipped as a god, but then again, she was revered for her great beauty. Of course her womb resembling the cradle of creation/the universe could also be a nod to the Egyptian/Kemetic goddess Ma'at, but again Ma'at was the opposite of evil.
As for the three old sisters I imagine they represent the Fates. But Russian??? The guy with the Hammer is the Slavic deity Czernobog aka the "black God". So his conversation with Shadow made a perfect sense. Finally, the Voodoo Ioa that appeared on the slave ship seems to be some sort of hybrid mix between Baron Samedi and Anansi. I say that because the former his known to sometimes wear purple suits and swear a lot, as well as encourage acts that may lead to death. Whereas the latter is known to take the form of a spider and aid in times of slave resistance. Both of which have a strong relationship to West Africa and the Caribbeans. If it's not a combination of the two then I'm lost. |
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 5:07pm |
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Is this based on Neil gaiman's graphic novel?
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 6:10pm |
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Yep, as far as I know it is. I never read the book tho. But based on Rude's comment I'm thinking it must be.
You'll like it tho. The theme and production seem like a cross between Supernatural, Game of Thrones, and Spartacus, and maybe a little True Blood but with a less cheesy soap opera type of vibes (so far at least). |
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Agree on like 95% of that, I don't really see Bilquis as evil, (of course this is my interpretation from the novel since I haven't seen the show yet) but it's like once in the act, the victims sort of self-sacrifice themselves to her. It's bizarre but she's one of the few Old World Gods that still receive that type of dedicated worship. With that said, the description on the wikipedia page says her myth draws inspiration from the bible in which she was believed to be half jinn/demon. So, I guess it does make sense if she is evil.
More or Less, they are also Slavic goddesses, they could be comparable to the Fates as well as Hecate/Triple Goddess in greek/neopaganism. Or even Angels for that matter, since they are the physical representations of the Morning/Evening/Midnight stars.
Right on on both of those, though I think it should play out as a lot more Anansi than Baron Samedi. I know that a few more key Gods will come from Egyptian and Germanic pantheons. I also think there might be some Hindu, along with the open possibility/hope of seeing more introduced through the show. Especially hoping for more Native American deities. |
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 11:08pm |
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Ahhh, okay great info, Rude.
I think Bilquis is vaginally consuming her worshippers to retain her beauty. So in a strange sort of way I can see how it plays into the whole concept of Sheba. Kinda. Also, she's not actually killing anyone because it appears that they still exist within a pocket dimension that is inside of her. I never heard of the Slavic Goddess before. So thanks for that. I'm trying my best to not cheat and Google these characters' true incarnations. As for Anansi. He appears as a spider, but also as a black man wearing a purple plaided suite with a conk hairdo that what I assume is from the 1920's. Which is strange because he shows up on a Dutch slave ship three years before present day wearing at the time would be considered futuristic clothing. Although, he doesn't have the trademarked top hat or skull painted face he's famous for, however everything else about his fiery and eccentric personality is definitely inspired by the Baron (imo). I think the writers are taking a creative liberty for the purpose tv entertainment and combining the two ioas. Also, in the opening scenes of the first episode a beached Viking (100 years before Eric the Red) is murdered by a slew of mysterious arrows as he and his shipmates attempt to leave the shore and enter the dense forest. So I'm assuming the arrows were shot by the Native gods given how the arrows seem to come out of nowhere. As for Hindu gods, the opening credits of each show contains a statue of Ganesha. So I'm guessing like the Native gods the Indus deities will make an appearance at some point in the series. |
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Posted: 14 May 2017 at 11:50pm |
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I watched a portion of the first episode at the behest of one The Law, was partially distracted and sort of gave up when I realised I had no idea what was going on. I read an article this morning that illuminated my mind to the fact that no one knows what's going on so I'm going to give it another chance. I guess there's deep symbolism and the subject matter deals with a metaphorical (but maybe not so metaphorical) feud between the old and new Gods. It has my attention
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 12:11am |
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I'm gonna say not so metaphorical.
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 12:18am |
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This sounds dope as fuck what's everybody watching it on
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 12:22am |
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we don't allow streaming links here but you can probably find it online. i'm about to watch it right after IC2 voting. i'll be back to discuss!
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 1:49pm |
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Ya'll see the third episode?
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 3:54pm |
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Yeah, the opening with Anubis and Bastet (the cat) was dope asf. Especially when the lady entered realm/portal with the image of Set craved into it.t
The genie giving his boyfriend an enchanted STD was a bit excessive and over the top. But other than that it was a pretty dope episode. One thing I was particularly intrigued by was how the show is starting to take a more quantum and metaphysical route. The whole perception is reality bit is definitely my type of discussion. |
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Posted: 15 May 2017 at 4:28pm |
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was that the opening for the 2nd episode with the Egyptian afterlife scene? that was dope as hell!
love all the references and allusions in this show. def gonna start watching it from here on. 3rd episode was "disturbing" lol. but overall i dug the plot point and progress. what you guys think of the lead's (shadow) performance?
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