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    Posted: 30 March 2017 at 3:07pm
Identity Crisis: Round 1

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- Wednesday April 5th, Midnight GMT time
- Reserves if needed, Friday April 7th, Midnight GMT time

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Battler 12

Derailed


struggles are like a train hurtling towards me

Steaming ahead with curdling horns torturing me 

curving tracks grasp my wrists and hands with conformity

Spikes asserting force into my ribs and back with authority 

the majority lets the train run its course with collision 

No resisting, no vision to escape its sorcery 

indecision hurling towards reality, pleading for mercy and contrition

imprisoned, shackled at the tracks waiting for one t' listen

This loco motive has us tethered to our emotions

hogtied nd broken, We try and avoid it but its hopeless 

Struggle is the trojan horse to be awoken 

deer in headlights, we see the train and we're frozen

Cant cope with it, clinching rails like a nose is in some coke shit

Railroad ties broken, our problems soaking in and choking

we see the smoke nd lies but try to avoid it

High serotonin, walls growing on this railroad nd'....

Whistles blowing nd i feel our minds exploding

This system is controlling every little moment

 zoning into the growing poison and we contract the cancer

When the train hits, we asked for disaster 

stepping off the tracks were i know it will pass first

Im in a chapter of life where im getting faster 

I hear the horns and when its calling, i answer 

I have crafted a steady spine nd back of serenity

When struggle approaches, i let it help paint my legacy

with my legs free i can mentally block my enemies

some dreadfully get ran over while im climbing Everest's Peak

So whats the remedy? 

Trains devilishly wreak havoc on us endlessly 

Im on a plain of reality seeking for its pleasantry 

got off the tracks of sanity and hitched a ride with destiny


Derailed the negativity like a 6 stack of ecstasy...

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Battler 21

It was rainy and wet as I wept at the station awaiting a train

To take me to Texas; impatiently pacing like leopards in cages

At circus occasions, my granny was sick & the nurses were saying

They needed a kidney to urgently save her! Emergency prayers 

From the clergy at church, at First Mary Hall, where Big Mama worked

As she served as a clerk ... maintaining their records for 33 years 

Was worried and feared she'd pass on the gurney as surgery neared 

Was nervous and scared cos the verdict's unclear: if I'd make it in time 

Or burn in despair!?! Fermented tears full of burbon and beers 

Cos I cracked opened bottles with pearly veneers, before I arrived

To deal with the fear: the thought of her dying ... not having her here

More than can bear, it'd be more than just bad, to wake up one morning 

And know that she's dead, so morbid and sad, still mourning my dad

"Morgan...be back" was the last thing he said ... before he collapsed

On the hospital bed; autopsy read: "...man mortally wounded in motorist crash"

Remortgaged the pad, cos the mortician's tab, was more than we had

Cos a shortage of cash was always an issue! "Daddy, I miss you ...

& wish I was with you ... as long as I live I'll never forget you"

I said in my head ... soul fractured in fractions like fragmented glass!


"So tragic and sad ... your miserable life. It's pitiful, right? 

You're taught to believe in some miracle, Christ! Hysterical, hype!

I'm Barington Write, 'The Baron of Death & Burial Rites'

Your chariot ride is soon to arrive, driven by Cheron 'The Spiritual Guide'"


"The Ferryman?"


"Aye!"


"You're scary, man. Bye."


"You married the night and it came at a price. I spared you a life

Now it's time to comply. A deal is a deal" he swiftly replied

Nefarious eyes and sinister grin: a midget and menace 

Who's business was sin! Like Rumpelstillskin. "Remember this pen?

You signed on the line so that grandma could live!" The station went dim

& filled with a mist as images flickered I witnessed events -- the things that I did

My life in a glimpse! As quick as it ended reality hit! I died on the day

A year to this date, but didn't remember cos limbo replays indefinite loops

As I waited for trains to catch the caboose & take me to Heaven or Hell if it's true!



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Battler 12:  Your opening 2 bars were cool.  The first bar the flow was off a tad bit.  I kinda like the direction your brining the concept.  With the comparing lifes struggles to the train and tracks.  A little bit too literal but it can work.  

"This loco motive has us tethered to our emotions

hogtied nd broken, We try and avoid it but its hopeless 

Struggle is the trojan horse to be awoken 

deer in headlights, we see the train and we're frozen

Cant cope with it, clinching rails like a nose is in some coke shit

Railroad ties broken, our problems soaking in and choking"---  Yeah you executed the concept nicely.  Altho it seems to be a bit vague.  The flow really needs some work I feel in this section.


"zoning into the growing poison and we contract the cancer

When the train hits, we asked for disaster 

stepping off the tracks were i know it will pass first

Im in a chapter of life where im getting faster 

I hear the horns and when its calling, i answer 

I have crafted a steady spine nd back of serenity

When struggle approaches, i let it help paint my legacy"----This was dope.  I was feeling the whole comparison and the flow was fucking dope.  This section really shined.


with my legs free i can mentally block my enemies

some dreadfully get ran over while im climbing Everest's Peak

So whats the remedy? 

Trains devilishly wreak havoc on us endlessly 

Im on a plain of reality seeking for its pleasantry 

got off the tracks of sanity and hitched a ride with destiny


Derailed the negativity like a 6 stack of ecstasy..."---really nice way to close it out.  Loved the flow .  I was skeptical in the beginning about you choosing to take a different rout with the way you wrote this topical.  Like instead of having a story with characters and shit you made it like a reflection on ones own vision of society and self struggle.  That was daring but I feel you pulled it off.  Only thing I would work on is your flow seemed a  bit stiff.  Work on the mechanics a bit more.



Battler 21:


"It was rainy and wet as I wept at the station awaiting a train

To take me to Texas; impatiently pacing like leopards in cages

At circus occasions, my granny was sick & the nurses were saying

They needed a kidney to urgently save her! Emergency prayers "---At first it was hard for me to find a rhythm but after rereading it a few times it came out pretty dope.  Nice introduction to the story as well.



"  maintaining their records for 33 years 

Was worried and feared she'd pass on the gurney as surgery neared - Was nervous and scared cos the verdict's unclear---this was fire.  A really nice example of your rhyme scheme and killer internals.


Fermented tears full of burbon and beers 

Cos I cracked opened bottles with pearly veneers, before I arrived

To deal with the fear: the thought of her dying ... not having her here"---whoa superb rhyming mixed with really staying on point with the story line.  really nice shit.


So tragic and sad ... your miserable life. It's pitiful, right? 

You're taught to believe in some miracle, Christ! Hysterical, hype!

I'm Barington Write, 'The Baron of Death & Burial Rites'

Your chariot ride is soon to arrive, driven by Cheron 'The Spiritual Guide'"---another great piece that was just oozing talent.  Great story so far.


The whole ending segment is quotable.  Absolutely vicious.  This is by far the best verse I have read in the tournament so far.  Story was there and mechanics were great.


MVGT: Battler 21...I mean battler  12 had a nice verse but I feel battler 21 just had an almost impossible verse to beat.  Flow and story wise 21 edged this one out


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12,
very nice. Love the poetic voice of the piece. you kept the theme and tone very consistent. This verse seems to be a meditation on the pitfall of life with the train serving as a metaphor for different experiences or struggles. i really love the imagery here. it was very good and the wording was pretty good also. The one issue i had with this piece was the flow. the metric seemed off. i found myself constantly having to pause or re read because i was struggling to catch the rhythm. that aside, this was a solid piece, my friend.


21,
yooo flow here is insane! very unorthodox, like you'd half rhyme then when i thought the rhyme was lost it came right back. way to fuck with anticipation. the story itself was really good. if i'm reading correctly, is about a girl who either soul her soul or switched place with her grandma to save her from death. love how things came full circle. the setting was in a train station. It also ended in a train station (a purgatory version lol). the last stanza was absolutely vicious. salute. there's not much wrong here tbh. good job!

both verse were good and had its own form of enjoyment but the winner to me will have to be 21. I thought the piece was better executed while still maintaining narrative integrity. good job, u two. 


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Battler 12

Derailed

struggles are like a train hurtling towards me
Steaming ahead with curdling horns torturing me
curving tracks grasp my wrists and hands with conformity
Spikes asserting force into my ribs and back with authority
the majority lets the train run its course with collision
No resisting, no vision to escape its sorcery
indecision hurling towards reality, pleading for mercy and contrition
imprisoned, shackled at the tracks waiting for one t' listen
This loco motive has us tethered to our emotions
hogtied nd broken, We try and avoid it but its hopeless
Struggle is the trojan horse to be awoken
deer in headlights, we see the train and we're frozen
Cant cope with it, clinching rails like a nose is in some coke shit
Railroad ties broken, our problems soaking in and choking
we see the smoke nd lies but try to avoid it
High serotonin, walls growing on this railroad nd'....
Whistles blowing nd i feel our minds exploding

(nice opening the emotion here via tension and suspense what nice,made the reader
read this with pace,it had an urgency about it,the wording/placement were good also,
i'll also give you credit here for sticking quite close to the picture in this segment,your
imagery was present and firing as well,yeah I really liked the anxiety this presented,
good start..)

This system is controlling every little moment
zoning into the growing poison and we contract the cancer
When the train hits, we asked for disaster
stepping off the tracks were i know it will pass first
Im in a chapter of life where im getting faster
I hear the horns and when its calling, i answer
I have crafted a steady spine nd back of serenity
When struggle approaches, i let it help paint my legacy
with my legs free i can mentally block my enemies
some dreadfully get ran over while im climbing Everest's Peak
So whats the remedy?
Trains devilishly wreak havoc on us endlessly
Im on a plain of reality seeking for its pleasantry
got off the tracks of sanity and hitched a ride with destiny

Derailed the negativity like a 6 stack of ecstasy...

(the tempo/flow was a constant throughout this piece,relating the picture to feelings
and situations was a solid effort that i appreciated,(not only are we on a track in life,
but when things go bad in life we then hits points and become on the track of disaster),
they are symbolic to is all in a fashion,when someone's crazy we say he's gone off the
rails,this is the essence you captured here within this verse,it's about the symbolic
vibe we have with rail,the metaphoric content was quite subtle within also,the depiction
was nice due to details provided here,i liked this drop,it was a solid read..)




Battler 21

It was rainy and wet as I wept at the station awaiting a train
To take me to Texas; impatiently pacing like leopards in cages
At circus occasions, my granny was sick & the nurses were saying
They needed a kidney to urgently save her! Emergency prayers
From the clergy at church, at First Mary Hall, where Big Mama worked
As she served as a clerk ... maintaining their records for 33 years
Was worried and feared she'd pass on the gurney as surgery neared
I Was nervous and scared cos the verdict's unclear: if I'd make it in time
Or burn in despair!?! Fermented tears full of burbon and beers
Cos I cracked opened bottles with pearly veneers, before I arrived
To deal with the fear: the thought of her dying ... not having her here
More than can bear, it'd be more than just bad, to wake up one morning
And know that she's dead, so morbid and sad, still mourning my dad
"Morgan...be back" was the last thing he said ... before he collapsed
On the hospital bed; autopsy read: "...man mortally wounded in motorist crash"

(damn a lot of misery in this segment,the character family seem to have more bad luck than the Kennedy's..lol,the rhyme scheme you used here was quite advanced really,in most parts it worked,there were some draw backs though,as it didn't quite come off in the opening lines,pretty fucking Bolshie i must say,plus to use this scheme suggest your oozing confidence also,your verse read with pace as the inner rhyme scheme aided this,a nice start with sprite here..)

Remortgaged the pad, cos the mortician's tab, was more than we had
Cos a shortage of cash was always an issue! "Daddy, I miss you ...
& wish I was with you ... as long as I live I'll never forget you"
I said in my head ... soul fractured in fractions like fragmented glass!

"So tragic and sad ... your miserable life. It's pitiful, right?
You're taught to believe in some miracle, Christ! Hysterical, hype!
I'm Barington Write, 'The Baron of Death & Burial Rites'
Your chariot ride is soon to arrive, driven by Cheron 'The Spiritual Guide'"

"The Ferryman?"

"Aye!"

"You're scary, man. Bye."

"You married the night and it came at a price. I spared you a life
Now it's time to comply. A deal is a deal" he swiftly replied
Nefarious eyes and sinister grin: a midget and menace
Who's business was sin! Like Rumpelstillskin. "Remember this pen?
You signed on the line so that grandma could live!" The station went dim
& filled with a mist as images flickered I witnessed events -- the things that I did
My life in a glimpse! As quick as it ended reality hit! I died on the day
A year to this date, but didn't remember cos limbo replays indefinite loops
As I waited for trains to catch the caboose & take me to Heaven or Hell if it's true!

(I do love to read Mythology in pieces,but the miss spelling of Charon was a noticeable
error here,not a huge problem on the whole,just hard to skate around and ignore for
me,but that aside i did enjoy the banter mid section of this segment,i also liked the
flurry of multi's within too,the reference to Rumplestillskin/sin,was done nice as it just
gave the impression that your layering your lines,and to be honest i enjoyed this segment better than the 1st,it had more depth to it,and the selling of one's soul was a
nice inclusion also,(when faced with deaths,we as a race would do almost all we could
or can to prevent it,grief is a powerful side effect for our actions,as highlighted here,
i also liked how you closed out with uncertainty,overall an entertaining read that gave
me a kick..)


Overall good tussle guys,a hard battle to call in all honesty,both pieces i had to read a couple of time before i made this choice,but for me Battler 12 just managed to scan it,their piece was more in tune with the picture,and more to my liking,Battler 21 I did like your diversity you brought here with your offering,just today you was unlucky for me..props to both.

Vote..battler 12..peace.
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Battler 12

Heeeeeeeeeyyy!! Battler 12!! The big dozen!! The 1-2 combination!! 

At first when I was reading this I was a bit like "obvious lyrical ability, some great metaphors in there in particular but I don't really feel a connection with this"...then you pretty much nailed the ending, which kind of turned me round a whole lot. Interesting what 2 lines can do for your impression of a piece. Was going to say "oh you were wittering on about the train a lot" but I can actually see how if you were depressed then that's how you'd view the world so actually I give you a lot of credit for making the form match the story. I think something you've got to be careful of is when you use your more extensive vocabulary that you don't sacrifice rhythm too much. I thought you had some beautifully descriptive writing but you should keep in mind that there is a natural syllable count to a line & when you use bigger words you're absorbing that syllable count, so you need to try and say less words to compensate for those bigger words. If you start to think about that you'll naturally be forced to strike a balance between the bigger, more complex words, and shorter more simpler words which will actually help you to achieve a better flow as well. As at times this did feel quite dense to read. You struck a better balance at times, but that's something you could improve on overall. 

That said, I thought this was a very, very good verse with a lot of high quality components. Will be a tough one to beat in my eyes.

Battler 21

Heeeeyyyy!! Battler 21!! The mirror image!! 2 multiplied by 10 plus 1!! Romeo done! Mr. Black Jack! 

Daaaaaaamnnn!! Straight away I was like "oh shit I'm gonna have a problem here". Another one (from those I've read/voted on) where there was a clear story-telling voice throughout. This was an incredible drop if I'm honest with you. Had real depth, loads of little details which make it come alive but also with a progression in narrative terms throughout. Only real thing I'd question is whether I really thought it was credible that a young, attractive woman would sell her soul to save an elderly relative, which is probably the type of thing which would make me pause in terms of thinking "is this a classic verse". Otherwise this was superb, so much that I loved about it...even the style with that Ferryman part, you just had all the added extras that separates something from ordinary high quality to something special. I felt engaged and interested in the story as it unfolded and I thought you had a really clever way to end it, I really loved the idea that the moment just replays for eternity. Anyway, real great verse, looking forward to see what you do in future rounds.

Conclusion

I feel kind of bad on Battler 12...I really enjoyed a lot of parts of their verse and felt like they would've progressed against many of the other people in this round, but those are the breaks. My vote goes to 21 for a more well rounded and captivating verse. 

Vote = 21
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Battler 21 wins 3-1. 
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